Amber Heard says her therapist’s notes, excluded from Johnny Depp’s trial, would have made a difference in the jury’s verdict

Amber Heard said she believes the recordings made by her doctor, in which she reports alleged abuse by Johnny Depp, changed the jury’s decision to defame her ex-husband. However, comments were excluded from the six-week trial.

In the latest episode of NBC News’ interview with Savannah Guthrie, which aired Date On Friday, Herd said his doctor’s recordings are a record of what he talked about in real time, before starting a relationship with Depp.

Guthrie said she looked at the tapes and showed that “in 2012 Amber was talking about physical abuse. In January of that year, she told therapist Depp that she had been knocked down and thrown to the ground. “Eight months later, he tore off his nightgown, threw it on the bed and in 2013 hit the wall and threatened to kill him.”

Herd’s lawyers also showed NBC News text messages that were barred from the trial, including one in which he wrote to his father: “He kicked me in front of everyone.” The message related to a controversial incident in which Herd alleged that Depp had punched him on a private jet flight.

Depp denied Herd’s physical abuse allegations. Depp’s spokesperson told the network: “It is a shame that the defendant and his team are still re-examining, reviewing and re-examining cases that have already been decided by the court.”

The jury awarded Depp $ 15 million in a libel suit against Herd and found him accountable for libel after publishing a 2018 post in the Washington Post claiming he became a “public figure representing domestic violence.” . The judge quickly reduced the amount to $ 10.35 million, due to the state of punitive damages. Herd also won the verdict because the jury found Depp accountable for defamation due to the attorney’s statement of him. But Herd’s reward was only $ 2 million.

Herd’s interview with Gatri was her first test interview, and NBC News maximized the exposure of her exclusive by splitting it into two parts. This day This week was followed by an hour Date.

the Date The episode featured part of Gattri’s interview that had already aired, but this hour may have shed some light on why Herd agreed to do so, as it once again allowed him to tell his side of the story. But this was a version of events that the jury found unconvincing.

“They thought I was lying,” Guthrie told Herd.

He replied: “I put it this way: how could they make a decision, how could they not come to this conclusion? “They sat on those benches and listened for over three weeks to the relentless and merciless testimony of paid employees and the end of the trial, as I said, Rando.”

“I don’t blame him [the jury]. I really understand that he is a favorite character and people feel like they know him. He is a fantastic actor… After hearing a three and a half minute testimony of how unreliable he was, I couldn’t believe a single word that came out of my mouth. I am a hysterical woman. I’m crazy “I can’t trust him over and over”.

Herd defended the article, which was at the origin of the defamation complaint, arguing that it did not refer to his relationship with Depp but to the issue of domestic violence and legislative reforms. But when asked why he wrote something that would stimulate the couple’s relationship again, considering the divorce settlement, Herd acknowledged that that was where he “would like to be taken more seriously.”

a jury appeared Good morning America Earlier this week, Herd said he was “not convinced”. He claimed that his confession of him had been obtained through torture and that his confession of him had been obtained through torture.

“I know a lot has been done with these audio tapes,” Herd told Gatri. “As I testified on the stand, what you hear in these clips is not proof of what was happening. “It was evidence of a negotiation on how to talk to your attacker.”

Guthrie asked Herd, “He said he never hurt you. It’s a lie? “Yes,” said the pack.

Guthrie noted that no other woman had complained to Depp.

“Look what happened to me when I introduced myself. “Do you want?”, He listened to her and answered.

Gatrim also highlighted another aspect of Depp’s case: the photos, which show Herd looking “flawless” after the alleged insult. Herd showed that some of the photos were taken a few days after the alleged injuries and even weeks later, Guthrie said.

“What I learned from that test is that it will never be good enough,” Herd said. “If you have evidence, then it was a plan. It was a joke. If you don’t have the proof, it didn’t happen. If you have a bruise, it’s fake. If you don’t have a bruise, it goes without saying that the violence hasn’t hurt you. If you tell people, then you are hysterical. “If I hadn’t told anyone, it wouldn’t have happened.”

He told Gatri that he hoped the result “wouldn’t have the calming effect it could have on other people.” I’m nervous about it. But if I can look you in the eye, Savannah, and say, “I’m still here,” and maybe that’ll balance things out a bit. You may have very real fears of others coming forward or going out. “

Herd said he would be “support behind every word of my testimony” on his “day of death.”

“My focus is the only thing I can hope for right now, I just want people to see me as a person,” she said.